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August 29, 2008 | Last Updated: 8/29/08 1:04 PM ET | Comments (117)
Trying To Figure The Ins And Outs Of Reaching 53

By Saturday at 6 p.m., the Eagles will have their roster to the NFL-mandated 53 players. The team waived eight players on Friday afternoon and still have a bunch more to do between now and Saturday evening.

So I'm waiting. And I'm wondering: Who stays? Who goes? I'm going to blog my way through the day(s) as the Eagles trim the roster from 75 players to 53 players by 6 p.m. on Saturday ...

Friday, 12:58 p.m.

Eight moves down and 14 more to go. Waived are the following players: wide receiver Bam Childress, cornerbacks Therrian Fontenot and Nick Graham, wide receiver Jamal Jones, safety Marcus Paschal, offensive lineman Stefan Rodgers and lineabacker Pago Togafau. Running back Ryan Moats was waived/injured. That leaves 67 players on the active roster.

Any surprises from the first wave? No, but there are disappointments. Moats leads the way in that department. He was so promising as a rookie when Brian Westbrook was injured and Moats showed a suddeness and an excitement and he seemed sure to be a player who would continue to get better and better. But Moats had trouble learning the scheme, then he had some injury woes and when he played this summer he was indecisive as a running back. Moats is a great, great young man. He deserves to get healthy and find a job in a one-cut system where he can just get the ball and go.

Graham seemed to have a good line on a roster spot here early in the off-season. He was on the active roster all of last season and the expectation was that Graham would make a run for some playing time. But it didn't happen. Graham never stepped up to claim a fifth cornerback job.

Fontenot did some good things and made a lot of improvement in his time as an Eagle. Still, it wasn't enough to secure a job on the 53-man roster.

The waiving of Togafau pretty much cements, in my eyes, a roster spot for rookie Joe Mays. Mays had clearly distanced himself in the battle for the backup middle linebacker job.

Will there be any more moves today? Maybe not. The Eagles are providing no public update on the health of Max Jean-Gilles, and everyone is still in suspense over some of the roster battles. The news isn't, apparently, going to come out until Saturday.

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Friday, 10:48 a.m.

One of the first things on my mind this morning is the health of Max Jean-Gilles. He went down with a left knee sprain late in Thursday's preseason finale, and it was scary to see. Hopefully, Jean-Gilles is OK and the Eagles can take a deep breath. But if he isn't, it will impact the roster. Certainly, Andy Reid and Tom Heckert are considering all the angles.

Jean-Gilles played well in the preseason and made some excellent strides. He is a quality guard in this league and his presence gives the Eagles some comfort for their offensive line depth. Stay tuned on that one.

I don't know if Jerome McDougle is going to make the 53-man roster, but I would tend to doubt that the Eagles are planning to rush anything. They have until 6 p.m. tomorrow to get down to 53 players. They are going to exhaust all options -- trades, waiver-wire claims, etc. -- as they try to get their roster as good as it can be.

Friday, 11:26 a.m.

Rookie defensive end Bryan Smith stood out on Thursday night and provided a glimpse of what could be coming in his career. Smith was a 217-pound player at McNeese State a couple of years ago. He was about 235 pounds when the Eagles drafted him in April. He is now around 245 pounds, maybe a couple of pounds heavier, and he still has quickness and a great burst off the line of scrimmage.

Smith made several of his 11 tackles against the Jets crashing down the line of scrimmage, an aggressiveness that cost him on the end around that worked so well for the Jets on Thursday. Smith needed to play contain on that play, but he will learn.

He is going to make the team. No question about that. At a crowded defensive end position, Smith has come on strong.

"In college he was a great pass rusher," said head coach Andy Reid after the game against the Jets during which Smith had 1 1/2 sacks, two tackles for loss and three quarterback hurries. "That was at a little bit smaller school, but he was a dominant pass rusher in college. He came here, and he's been almost a better run player than he has a pass rusher, which surprised me. Today he showed that he can do both. He has to continue to improve there both in the pass and in the run. But we can work with that right there. He's done a nice job."  

Friday, 11:53 a.m.

Tony Hunt or Jason Davis? That is the question the Eagles are answering now. Do they take a player (Hunt) with virtually no experience at the position and project him, based on his two games at fullback, as a competent or even better player there? Or do they go with Davis, who at least has been a fullback for much of his football career and who has two seasons in the system?

Davis could have made this easy way back when by taking the job, clutching it, and never allowing the Eagles to consider adding the kind of competition they've brought to the position. But Davis didn't hold on to the first-string job, didn't show enough to the coaching staff, and so the Eagles went out and traded for Luke Lawton -- a deal that is null and void with no Eagles compensation due to the Colts -- and then gave viable time to rookie Jed Collins and then moved Hunt to fullback.

I have no way of knowing, but my guess is that Hunt wins the job. He hustled down on special teams against the Jets and made a play. He showed he wanted to learn the position and play the physical role, even if he lacks technique. Truth be told, I'm not sure that Hunt's ability with the ball plays too much into the equation here. Davis is pretty good on short-yardage runs and he catches the ball well. I'm not sure Davis has a 51-yard touchdown run in him, like Hunt had against Carolina, but Davis is OK with the ball in his hands.

The Eagles, of course, could completely surprise and trade for a fullback or pluck one off of waivers, but I don't see that right now. There is too much to learn within the system. I say it is Hunt on the 53-man roster and Collins on the practice squad. Ask me in 20 minutes and I may have another answer, because I admit I have gone back and forth on this daily.

Friday, 12:14 p.m.

Back on draft weekend, head coach Andy Reid predicted that first pick Trevor Laws and second pick DeSean Jackson would have a chance to get on the field and provide an impact as rookies. It was a fairly bold statement from Reid, who rarely goes for that kind of "crystal-ball" stuff.

As it turns out, though, Reid was underestimating his draft class.

Laws is going to play, of course. He had a good preseason and is locked in as a third defensive tackle. The Eagles trust him. They think they can count on him. He is going to give good effort, play with solid technique and be a tough guy inside. I like the way Law carries himself and I like the way he has played in the preseason.

Jackson is the team's punt return man and is going to also see time -- and I think substantial time -- at wide receiver. He was a game-breaking player in the preseason. The next test is to keep doing it when the tempo is faster and the intensity is greater, but Jackson looks like he has a chance at being quite a contributor as a rookie.

Then there is Quintin Demps, whom Reid said adds "zip" in the kickoff return game. Zip and zoom, yes. Demps has good vision, is a strong runner and knows when to turn it up the field. I have every expectation that the Eagles return teams are ready to take a huge leap this year.

Sixth-round draft pick Joe Mays is going to play on special teams after a very strong preseason, and third-round pick Bryan Smith lit it up at defensive end against the Jets and offered a glimpse of his upside.

I can't remember a draft class that showed so much so early. I don't know if the kids are going to keep it up in the regular season, but I think I'm as excited about this draft class as any I can remember. 

Trying To Figure The Ins And Outs Of Reaching 53
   
icontutu
08/30/08
1:05 pm ET
Rumors of Eagles cuts swirling by JasonB on Aug 30, 2008 10:51 AM EDT in News Our pal Tommy Lawlor who was a guest of the BGN Live podcast about a week ago is reporting on his site scoutsnotebook.com that the Eagles have made their decisions and there's a few surprises. - IN - Tony Hunt Mike McGlynn Mike Gasperson ... as a WR/TE hybrid - CUT - J. McDougle Kris Wilson Matt Schobel
Meaglesfan
08/30/08
11:51 am ET
Though i read your comments most days I have yet to right so this will be the first. i,m not sure about Howard i think hes still a question that needs to be answered. WR's need Avant, glew needs to go to keep gas a much bigger physical reciever cause we don't need another pinkston.
r0undman2
08/29/08
8:35 pm ET
With the way the NFC teams are hurting for DEnds we have to make room for McDougle or he will come back to haunt us!!
andre.waters20@...
08/29/08
8:30 pm ET
I want to know if any one saw Howard play as a saint. If you ask me this guy is the biggest bust as a free agent signing in recent memory. I was so happy we got him. He played so well as a saint and when philly got him it looked like it would be the freak and Howard as a great starting DE. But soon Cole beet him out for playing time( not that its a bad thing)and the freak went down... well what Im saying is he as not done any thing in philly and I think he is getting payed to much for nothing.Cut him.As for WR I think with #80 out Gas will make the team and get cut latter when Kevin comes back.
JeromeBrown99
08/29/08
8:12 pm ET
Chat later. I gotta go.
JeromeBrown99
08/29/08
8:08 pm ET
tutu the icon))) Much thanks for the Vietnam Vet stuff. Truly... from my heart. That was tough I would imagine. === I LOVE Avant. I really think he's coming around. We are set at the slot WR. I really like him. Gotta pal that IS A WR. He's a Scout but mostly knows WR. He was at TC every day just qabout. He Loves Avant. Thats why I do. That... and I just thought there was something to work with last year. === I LOVE Curtis, Brown, Avant in the slot with Peanut lined up wherever. Thats a HUGE upgrade over last year.
JeromeBrown99
08/29/08
8:05 pm ET
Waiting for my FFL draft. Happen to see some of this game. === MJG????? I kinda like that WAY late hit. But it's most def ignorant. He did the same thing a few weeks ago and they didn't call it. WTF is he doing? === I don't get the anti-Boiman yap. I think he plays pretty well. He seals that strongside every time. A#1 in JJ D. I like Jordan, Mays and Boiman. Don't know if we'll keep 6. But I'd like to keep Boiman. === I think it's pretty for sure we keep 5 S's and 4 CB's. We have to keep 5 for when #20 goes down. Can't lean on Demps as a rook. So we need Reed. === About MJG... I have ZERO idea if he's really hurt. But anytime I hear "knee" I flip out on our top b/u Olineman. === Mays, Klecko and BSmith look great. === I'm still not sure about what position Considine plays better. But whatever position he does play... he's way better than last year. Still don't think he can start.
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:52 pm ET
later tutu
icontutu
08/29/08
6:49 pm ET
I think your right, but the less time you give the opposition to evaluate the releases the better. Eagles vs Jets, 12 minutes, NFL network, better late then never. Good Luck Gang, I'm out of here!!! Time to get a beer and snack, cheers...
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:48 pm ET
yes I hear you when you say that about putting both world together but why aways talk as if he is only from one of them that is what I see anyway. And would like to thank you for your service to this great Country of ours....
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:43 pm ET
I think we will hear the rest of the cuts early tomorrow mourning like after ten are eleven way b4 4pm
icontutu
08/29/08
6:40 pm ET
I Grew-up in SW Philley went to Bartram HS Graduated "63." Remember $3.00 seats at Connie Mack Stadium. I won't get into Politics with the exception of saying, I have the greatest respect for Obama, he pragmatically puts our, previously, two distant worlds together. I respect his background and success. He gets my vote. I say this as a Viet Nam Veteran... I don't weant to tie-up the site green. It is a "football site." Great conversing brother...
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:40 pm ET
Now I just took my trip down memmory lane Thanks TUTU
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:36 pm ET
Met alot of people down in that town Met natalie Cole she is Beautiful, Sly stallone, Rodney Dangerfield, Billy cystal lots of others my great aunt use to date dean Martin from my grandmothers apartment when I was very little you could see down on to the stage at the 500 club and they would watch Jerry lewis and Dean Martin play Jerry Lewis use to come to the apartment all the time my mom bit him on his ancle, My mom met Ronald Reagan when she was very young,took her and her three sister out for icecream when he was married to Jane wyman
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:27 pm ET
when I was growing up in Atlantic City it was a fun time for me lots of memmories for me in that place but they tore them all down nothing left but the memmories
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:25 pm ET
Its the only way they stay alive and make you remember the good old days
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:23 pm ET
was going to vote for Clinton but I wont vote for Obama and not because he is Black because he is alway saying he is Black but he isn,t he is mixed and does,nt talk about that all that much, wrote him a letter about that already
icontutu
08/29/08
6:19 pm ET
Randall started the era of running QB's. Although the way he ran, you knew he couldn't last forever. Barnett and Quick, all top shelf. I left the Philly area early eighties. Looking back they were my best of days... Remember Franklin Field? I quess we better stop the nostalgia, Thanx for the "Trip."
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:17 pm ET
where you from Icontutu
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:15 pm ET
met L T from the G-men also funny story was getting my picture with him behind the Bar the little mexican comes out with the camera snaps the shot and then goes back into the kitchen so L T leaves and then I go back to get the camera,ask the mexican where was the camera he shows it to me at wich point I said where was the film and he said film,I did,nt put any film in it I just laughed my a** off
icontutu
08/29/08
6:13 pm ET
Your on Green. I feel like I'm home...
icontutu
08/29/08
6:12 pm ET
Philly's another Guru that offers alot of quality insights. Right on Philly I'm with you Brother... "Brotherhood of Eagles Fans."
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:10 pm ET
I met Randall Cunningham,Mike Quick, Fred Barnett down ib Atlantic City think in 82 during the tyson fight with spinks
icontutu
08/29/08
6:08 pm ET
Don't forget Wilber Montgomery and how D Vermiel ran him into the ground. All coming back, just got to clean out this election debris...
agangofgreen
08/29/08
6:07 pm ET
PHILLY felt so strong about that statement you had to say it twice, just messing with you I know it was a double click



 
 
 
 
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