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Fan-Demonium: No Time To Panic
 
August 21, 2008 | Last Updated: 8/21/08 8:08 AM ET | Comments (36)
By: TOMMY LAWLOR


The news that Kevin Curtis has a sports hernia was just what Eagles fans didn't want to hear. The team has had some minor injuries to this point, but Curtis is the first starter to go down for a sizable amount of time.

Curtis was our most reliable and consistent receiver last year. He's going to be out ""a while"" according to head coach Andy Reid. Whatever the amount, it will be tough on the passing game.

This will mean more playing time for Greg Lewis and Hank Baskett. I hope it means more time with the starting offense for DeSean Jackson. Curtis can be replaced while he's out. It won't be easy. We need guys to step up in a big way to replace him.

When he does return, there is no guarantee that Curtis will be anywhere near 100 percent. We'll have to deal with that down the road. For now let's focus on the beginning of the season. Lewis has played well in the preseason and looks ready for the extra duty. Jackson has been very good so far. He's got all Eagles fans excited about his future. Baskett is the guy who needs to play well on Friday against New England and send a signal that he can be counted on.

The real key to all of this is Reggie Brown and whether he can get healthy by the season opener. Reid expects him to be ready. If we have to play without Brown and Curtis things will get interesting. New assistant coach Mark Whipple will have to get out the power running playbook from his days with the Steelers.

FULLBACK A JOB FOR THE TAKING

The fullback situation has been interesting all offseason long. The Eagles let Thomas Tapeh leave as a free agent without showing any signs of wanting him back. This made it seem like the team was ready for Jason Davis to take over the job. Davis has been with the organization for a couple of years, so the move made sense.

The Eagles threw us all a curveball when they signed Dan Klecko as a free agent. They were making Davis' main competition for the job a defensive tackle/linebacker with some experience in short-yardage offense. This experiment ended in mini-camp when it became apparent that Klecko didn't move well enough to start at fullback.

Jed Collins was signed as an undrafted free agent. The team traded for Luke Lawton of the Colts. Both guys had the potential to fit in the West Coast offense, as well as being solid special teams players.

After training camp and a couple of preseason games, the Eagles were still waiting for one of the players to really step up and win the job. A lot of fans are confused by exactly what is going on.

Thomas Tapeh was a solid fullback in 2007. He did a good job as the lead blocker for Brian Westbrook. Tapeh caught nine passes and ran five times. He didn't score any touchdowns. He wasn't expected to be a playmaker. The team wanted a blocker and solid receiver. The one area where Tapeh was a major disappointment was on special teams.

In the offseason head coach Andy Reid and special teams coach Rory Segrest decided that they needed more special teams production from the fullback. The player could be good on offense, but that wasn't going to be enough. The guy who won the fullback job would have to show up on special teams.

Jason Davis has looked good enough on offense to win the job. The problem is that he's been missing on special teams. Jed Collins is up and down on offense, but he's played well in kick coverage. Luke Lawton has fallen to third place and needs to really pick up the pace.

On Monday, the Eagles made the announcement that Tony Hunt would take snaps at fullback. Some people see this as a panic move. I don't see it that way at all. Hunt played his best game as an Eagle in the win over the Panthers. The coaches met over the weekend and must have started thinking about how they could keep Hunt on the roster. Keeping four running backs isn't going to be likely this year. There is no clear leader at fullback. Why not give Hunt a look there and see if he can handle the job?

Hunt made a pair of tackles in kickoff coverage last Thursday. That is the kind of special teams play the Eagles are looking for out of their fullback. If he plays that well again on special teams, that will be a big plus for Hunt.

Tommy Lawlor, goeagles99 on the Discussion Boards, is an amateur football scout and devoted Eagles fan. He's followed the team for almost 20 years. Tommy has been trained by an NFL scout in the art of scouting and player evaluation and runs www.scoutsnotebook.com.
Can he play fullback? Hunt is certainly good enough as a short-yardage runner to handle the few running attempts a fullback normally gets. He's a solid receiver on screens and short throws. Hunt caught 88 passes at Penn State, seven last year in the preseason and already has a couple of catches this year. The big mystery is whether he can be an effective lead blocker.

We won't know the answer to that question until Hunt plays fullback in a game. There are some reasons to think he can. In the 2005 season, Penn State ran a quarterback draw play for Michael Robinson. Hunt was the lead blocker on those runs. He was a good lead blocker. That was college and this is the NFL. There is no guarantee that skill will carry forward when Hunt would now be taking on big-time pro linebackers.

Blocking isn't all that complicated. All the fullback has to do is run into his target with enough power to draw a stalemate or push his defender backward. It isn't complicated, but it also isn't pleasant, unless you enjoy painful collisions. Hunt is a physical runner. He lowers his shoulder and gets into the defender. This running style is similar to blocking. That should help Hunt as he tries to make the switch. The biggest adjustment for Hunt will be choosing the correct target to attack. As a running back he's used to looking for daylight. The fullback has to go take on his defender. There are subtleties to blocking. The fullback has to use proper position, so that he seals the defender inside or outside. He has to block with good pad level. The fullback also has to know when a cut block is the way to go. That is something that will likely be foreign to Hunt. Rarely do you see running backs making cut blocks.

Hunt meets a lot of the criteria to be a good fullback. One area where he will come up short is weight. The average NFL fullback is more than 250 pounds. Hunt is somewhere in the 230 range. Some players have been effective lead blockers at less than 250 pounds. You just don't see many fullbacks that small anymore.

I do think Tony Hunt could make the transition and handle the job of fullback. He should get a lot of work on Friday night against the Patriots. Focus on how well he does as a lead blocker. Remember that Hunt also needs to show up on special teams. Being good on offense isn't enough for him.

If Hunt struggles, the Eagles will need to decide whether to go with him, Davis or Collins.  Hunt has the most overall potential, but is newest to the position and is somewhat undersized. Davis is fine on offense, but hasn't shown the desired special teams ability. Collins needs work as a blocker, but looks good on special teams. 

DEMPS TAKES OVER AT KICKOFF RETURNER

Rookie Quintin Demps has looked very good as a kickoff returner. He is fast. He explodes up the field and isn't hesitant at all. He catches the ball smoothly. Quintin has returns of 23 and 28 yards. On Friday night, Demps will get the chance to be the main kickoff returner. He's earned that opportunity. Hopefully Demps will look good against the first-team special teams unit. His success hasn't been due to great blocking. His return style and speed have been the real keys. That should carry over to facing better coverage. As strange as it may sound, Demps should help improve the blocking with his style of returns. Because he catches the ball and gets going quickly, blockers know they don't have to hold blocks for a long time. That should help them to be more effective and build up some confidence.

Demps has been up and down as a safety. Only the coaches know if he's handling his assignments correctly. He looks like a player who makes good reads and gets to the ball. Demps has shown good range and athleticism. I don't know that he's earned time in the nickel or dime defense, but he has certainly proven that he deserves a shot to be the main kickoff returner.

LONGSHOT LOOKING GOOD

Andy Studebaker is a very interesting rookie. He's making the transition from Wheaton College to the NFL and from defensive end to linebacker. So far, so good. Studebaker has shown that he definitely has the athletic ability to play pro football. He's also making plays. He has five tackles, a forced fumble and a batted pass.

Before we get too excited, we have to understand that Studebaker is playing against third stringers. In 2006, Tank Daniels was the small-school linebacker who looked good in the preseason. Last year, Akeem Jordan had that role. Only Jordan made the initial 53-man roster and that was for a brief time before the Eagles claimed Pago Togafau off waivers. Jordan last year was ahead of where Studebaker is this year, based on what I've seen. In the 2007 preseason finale, Jordan played a great game.  He flew all over the field and made a lot of tackles. We'll see if Studebaker has a game like that in him.

The Eagles will have to consider putting Studebaker on the roster. They can't count on him making it through waivers and getting to the practice squad.  Studebaker has better size than either Daniels or Jordan. He is a natural pass rusher. Teams running the 3-4 defense could easily be interested in claiming Studebaker. Right now Rocky Boiman is slated to be the backup strongside linebacker. He better not relax with the way that Studebaker is playing right now. The kid from Wheaton College might just make the team.

Fan-Demonium: No Time To Panic
   
Thechosen19842003@...
08/24/08
3:24 pm ET
It would be stupid as hell to panic, Why the hell panic when u got a guy who is the most underrated wide out in the NFL and on the team in Shaheer McBride... If giving the damm chance he will and can be the biggest play marker yall have seen in years.. But too much media talk on Jackson.. Jacksons a great player with speed and tools I give him that but McBride, The kid have some upside but he is just on a team who won't let him shine..It's crazy
modee
08/22/08
4:17 pm ET
First of all the Boldin trade is not going to happen so everyone should just let it go!!! And phillyboy11 and melo6631; I don't think you're not being a real fan just because you acknowledge the lack of talent at certain positions on your team. Facts are facts. This is not the best receivers group(Even with Kevin Curtis)in the NFL. Not even close.
scoutrunner
08/22/08
4:05 pm ET
Who's panicking?No need to.This team is NOT a Super Bowl contending team right now.Mr Lurie's a decent salesman but most Eagles fans aren't buying it. That's OK...I just want respectable,good football this season.Chips can fall where they may.Ya never know..... But there's no question the Giants are way ahead of schedule and the Boyz are loaded.Looking for some upsets this year,because that's what it comes down to:we are now the upset special in this division.Good...Lookin forward to ruining Jerry Jones' best laid plans.
suhrich2723@...
08/22/08
3:47 pm ET
We still need that one big receiver we need to push for BOLDIN
genebanks
08/22/08
9:42 am ET
Thats everybody problem. They depend on McNabb. But when McNabb sucks everybody looks at him as the worst QB in the wprld. Eagle fans are funny. "Yes we have super 5", the guy says. But if super 5 doesnt produce who balls you jump on then? See you have to understand again. The giant sneak in the superbowl. There's a couple of reasons. One they was hungry. Two there game plan was to destroy the offensive line of NE. Three they had a tall, pro ball what? WIDEOUT. Again like I said. If the Eagles win this year the superbowl with this team. first of all it will b McNabb and also a prayer from GOD or the league will cheat for us.
Deezle1
08/22/08
5:12 am ET
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Deezle1
08/22/08
5:11 am ET
ok..why is Jason Avant not mentioned in the rotation...am i missing something... is he hurt or what? there are no reports..
eagles4ever1977
08/21/08
9:15 pm ET
I did not even read the article above by Tommy.....no sense in it. I cannot stand to sit around for another 25 years, and watch the same thing over, and over. All I hear is the same thing in here every day "we will do fine with the guys we have" Bull$#it!!!!!! Do you guys really think that mediocrity is going to cut it? Oh I am sorry they were average when the still had Curtis, and Brown, and we will not know the problems Brown might continue to have down the road, so I would say they are below average. I said this could happen a long time ago to the WRs........Hey what the hell about our LBs?....If you think the WRs stuff is bad, just imagine if one of our starting LBs gets hurt? I know we have players a,b,and c....right?.......Bull$#it....the rest of the guys SUCK! You may not like hearing it, but it is the truth! One injury to the LBs, or two injuries, and we might be picking in the top 5 in the draft next year. Depth is a real concerne on this team. OMG one more thing, as far as Mcnabb not being able to get the ball to his receivers, it is not his fault, it is the F.O. and the WRs that the have brought in for him to throw to! 1 guy was a true #1, but he has an A$$hole, and he had two other guys, that were gust a notch above average, Stallworth (no longer with us) and Curtis (hurt) and that is it for the last 10 years. Can anyone else see this? I have also said this many times before, I think if Mcnabb gets hurt this year, and he probably will because no one is open for him, his time is Philly is up,.....then the F.O. will go out and get a #1WR for Kevin to throw to, just to keep us treading water. If they would have gotten Mcnabb a #1 YEARS AGO, we would have won multiple superbowls, where will we go from here? What could have been? another 25 DAMN years!
melo6631@...
08/21/08
8:16 pm ET
phillyboy is right, we got all the talent we need right here.
phillyboy11
08/21/08
7:54 pm ET
WHY PANIC WE AINT PLAYED A GAME YET WE FINE SUPER 5 IS GOING TO TAKE US TO THE SUPERBOWL AND WIN IT ALL ( I DONT THINK U DUDES ARE REAL EAGLES FAN FROM THE COMMENTS YOU POST )
melo6631@...
08/21/08
7:28 pm ET
I hear the Cardinals just made an offer, Anquan Boldin for 17 first round picks. Dream on guys.
melo6631@...
08/21/08
7:23 pm ET
why would we want vincent jackson? are you kidding me right now? look at his numbers man that dude is not excellent. Come on now. We would be better off with Hank Baskett and Jason Avant than Vincent Jackson. I dont know how you can honestly call him an excellent receivers. If he's excellent than Curtis is the best in the league. And whats Randy? Vincent Jackson the best game running game in the NFL last year on his team which obviously helps the passing game out, but yet his numbers: 41 receptions 623 yards and 3 TD's. That doesn't help our redzone issue. We don't need his sorry a**.
real1up@...
08/21/08
6:18 pm ET
Most of you so called fans out there are seriously repeating each other. Instead of clamoring for near impossibilities like Boldin, you should be yelling at the front office to look at the few teams with extremely deep wide recieving cores and encourage them to trade for a young prospect with good measurables. For Example... the CHARGERS have 2 excellent(Jackson & Chambers), 2 good(Nanee & Davis) and 2 decent (Floyd & Osgood). FO get the ball now! Get one of these young prospects NOW! You can probably get Vincent Jackson for a 1st & 3rd. You can probably get Nanee for a 3rd or at worst a 2nd. Get it done!
real1up@...
08/21/08
5:48 pm ET
Most of you so called fans out there are seriously repeating each other. Instead of clamoring for near impossibilities like Boldin, you should be yelling at the front office to look at the few teams with extremely deep wide recieving cores and encourage them to trade for a young prospect with good measurables. For Example... the CHARGERS have 2 excellent(Jackson & Chambers), 2 good(Nanee & Davis) and 2 decent (Floyd & Osgood). FO get the ball now! Get one of these young prospects NOW! You can probably get Vincent Jackson for a 1st & 3rd. You can probably get Nanee for a 3rd or at worst a 2nd. Get it done!
robertjponce@...
08/21/08
4:39 pm ET
WE NEED TO GET BOLDEN!!!!!!!!
adrian@...
08/21/08
4:04 pm ET
oh and bolt would be awsome i mean he already has the celebrations down!!!
adrian@...
08/21/08
4:02 pm ET
im glad that you posted the exact same thing 3 times but it doesnt strengthen your point.......we have for the past ten years delt with guys that were young prospects that are supposed to develop....only thing is where are all those guys now??? their either 3 to 5th stringers somewhere else, or still on the team(g.lewis 6 td's in 6 years on the team) and havent done anything or just not in the nfl at all. Im a die hard fan buit lets face it we have sucked at develpoing young wr's. Oh and mcnabb's not gettin any younger, they need to get him an established top tier vetran now!!!
real1up@...
08/21/08
3:53 pm ET
Most of you so called fans out there are seriously repeating each other. Instead of clamoring for near impossibilities like Boldin, you should be yelling at the front office to look at the few teams with extremely deep wide recieving cores and encourage them to trade for a young prospect with good measurables. For Example... the CHARGERS have 2 excellent(Jackson & Chambers), 2 good(Nanee & Davis) and 2 decent (Floyd & Osgood). FO get the ball now! Get one of these young prospects NOW! You can probably get Vincent Jackson for a 1st & 3rd. You can probably get Nanee for a 3rd or at worst a 2nd. Get it done!
real1up@...
08/21/08
3:47 pm ET
Most of you so called fans out there are seriously repeating each other. Instead of clamoring for near impossibilities like Boldin, you should be yelling at the front office to look at the few teams with extremely deep wide recieving cores and encourage them to trade for a young prospect with good measurables. For Example... the CHARGERS have 2 excellent(Jackson & Chambers), 2 good(Nanee & Davis) and 2 decent (Floyd & Osgood). FO get the ball now! Get one of these young prospects NOW! You can probably get Vincent Jackson for a 1st & 3rd. You can probably get Nanee for a 3rd or at worst a 2nd. Get it done!
real1up@...
08/21/08
3:46 pm ET
Most of you so called fans out there are seriously repeating each other. Instead of clamoring for near impossibilities like Boldin, you should be yelling at the front office to look at the few teams with extremely deep wide recieving cores and encourage them to trade for a young prospect with good measurables. For Example... the CHARGERS have 2 excellent(Jackson & Chambers), 2 good(Nanee & Davis) and 2 decent (Floyd & Osgood). FO get the ball now! Get one of these young prospects NOW! You can probably get Vincent Jackson for a 1st & 3rd. You can probably get Nanee for a 3rd or at worst a 2nd. Get it done!
ssmith@...
08/21/08
3:22 pm ET
I wonder if Usain Bolt can catch a football
adrian@...
08/21/08
3:09 pm ET
is anyone else gettin tired of hearin any ried say "I think we'll do well with the guys we have here already, and i think we can compete for a championship"....... I mean really dude??? come on aside from T.O. name one reciver that we had that any def. coord. has had to worry about??? Last one might be Irvin Fryar....do what it takes to get boldin Ried needs to stop bein so hard headed all the time.
mark@...
08/21/08
2:44 pm ET
I give Baskett and Lewis two more preseason games before Andy Reid decides if his confidence in these two players is deserved. Andy Reid doesn't rest till his team is the best it can be. Mark at http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/eaglesnest/
craigj
08/21/08
2:40 pm ET
Tommy Says: This will mean more playing time for Greg Lewis and Hank Baskett. I hope it means more time with the starting offense for DeSean Jackson. The real key to all of this is Reggie Brown... This sounds to me like a good time for concern. Without Curtis, Westbrook gets a lot more work, since the coaches and McNabb don't seem to have the confidence in Reggie or GLew to hang them out there. Could be that we run the offense in much the way we would without McNabb - more running and shorter passes instead of the long deep balls. This may be a blessing in disguise.
Jmarcum0@...
08/21/08
2:03 pm ET
Firt time since 2005 that Ive steadily lost optimism about the Birds as the season drew closer. I'm probably far less optimistic about this year than when T.O started flipping out in 05'. Tommy didn't make me feel any better.



 

 
 
 
 
 
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