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June 2, 2008 | Last Updated: 6/2/08 5:26 PM ET | Comments (56)
With Smith In Lead, How Good Can TE Spot Be?

What do the Eagles need from the tight end position this year? How do they intend to use the collective talents of L.J. Smith, Brent Celek, Kris Wilson and Matt Schobel? Which of those four, for that matter, won't be on the team should the Eagles, as expected, keep three tight ends on the 53-man roster?

It's an interesting series of questions, for the lack of production from the position last year was a major factor in the offense's lack of consistency, lack of red zone success and, at times, lack of explosiveness. From the end of the season until this point, the tight end position has taken a couple of unforeseen turns, including the retention of Smith and the acquisition of Wilson.

Now, as the veterans gather at the NovaCare Complex for a two-week passing camp, we're going to learn a little bit more about how the Eagles plan to use this group, and what a healthy -- again -- Smith means to the all-around effectiveness of the Eagles offense. His career numbers have certainly been up and down -- the good included 61 catches in 2005 and 50 in 2006 -- and then there have been the puzzling seasons of 2004 when he was so dominating at times and then hardly a target on a talent-laden offense, and then again last year when Smith hobbled to only 22 catches in 10 games.

By the end of last season, the common thought among observers was that Smith was as good as gone.  Was, then, tight end going to be a position to address in the off-season? Was Celek, after an encouraging rookie campaign, ready to ascend to the starting role? Would the draft offer any help?

Well, the Eagles surprised a lot of people when they used the franchise tag on Smith, who handled things like a complete professional and signed the tender and has been a regular part of the off-season conditioning program. His head is right, his body is fit and Smith is in line to have a very nice season.

The role of the tight end, though, remains undefined. It's hard to imagine the Eagles looking Smith's way 80 or 90 times like the Cowboys do with Jason Witten. Brian Westbrook, after all, is the one the Eagles make sure gets touches in the passing game. In Dallas, by comparison, Witten and Terrell Owens are the main pass catchers. Here, at least last year, it was Westbrook and Kevin Curtis.

There are ample weapons in this offense, considering the prowess of Westbrook and Curtis, and the young talent of Reggie Brown and DeSean Jackson and the hope that is Lorenzo Booker, a running back/receiver who has been impressive in learning-the-offense situations in the six weeks he has been an Eagle.

The tight ends? Interesting, to say the least.

At his best, Smith is a matchup problem for defenses with his combination of size and speed. The Eagles have never really looked at him six, seven, 10 times each week. Instead they have worked Smith into situations here and there to get him chances to catch the ball down the field or, many times, to make big plays in the red zone. But 80 catches a year? Smith has that kind of talent, but he has not been used in such a way.

On the surface from this perspective, the combination of Smith and Celek recalls the primo combo the Eagles had years ago with both Smith and Chad Lewis. Before Smith's arrival and in the early days of the Andy Reid/Donovan McNabb era, Lewis was a pass-catching machine. The Eagles needed Lewis to make plays. They had Duce Staley and Lewis, and Lewis responded with 69 catches in 2000, 41 in 2001 and then 42 in 2002.  Smith arrived in 2003 and the two tight ends did some damage together (although, to be fair, Jeff Thomason made plays in the early part of this decade, too).

Smith's contribution, then, shouldn't be measured solely by the numbers of catches he makes. After all, he was a tremendously valuable part of the offense in the playoff drive of 2006 because he was just as good at blocking and opening up holes in the running game as he was at making plays in the passing game. So, maybe a better way to assess Smith and his tight end mates is to factor in their stem-to-stern role in the offense.

The Eagles use a long list of personnel packages, and with DeSean Jackson bolstering the receivers and Booker in to make the backs a deeper group, the Eagles figure to trot out a lot of groups on a down-to-down basis. If history serves as a guide, they are going to keep three tight ends, so one of the four -- and I'm not including Michael Gasperson, because he is such a long shot at this point -- is not going to make the 53-man roster.

What the Eagles surely will have is a threesome at tight end that can make a lot of plays. I have to wonder how many plays the Eagles want from the tight ends, and how they use the position in the formation. Is tight end, I wonder, going to be less of a factor because the Eagles want to get the speed of Booker and Jackson on the field?

I don't have the answer, but I know the Eagles are considering their many options. The passing camp opens on Tuesday afternoons and two weeks worth of X's and O's will unfold, if only partially. There is much more of the playbook to consider, and the Eagles have only given this team dribs and drabs to date.

Will Smith catch 70 passes? That seems like a reach, considering he has not reached that number in previous seasons. Are we looking at something like Smith with 45 receptions, Celek with 25 and Wilson/Schobel catching another 10-20? Boy, that totals 80 receptions from the tight end position, and while it is a lofty goal, it seems excessive given the numbers you know Westbrook, Curtis and Brown will have, not to mention the potential contributions from Booker and Jackson.

Hey, it is something to watch. There is always something to watch, right? Tight end is one that bears some scrutiny, for sure. We saw how much a depleted corps hurt the offense last season. Now, the picture is different. It's healthy. It's vibrant. It should have success waiting in the offense. The real question is how much the Eagles want to use the tight end, how much they hope to include Smith and the others in the all-around potency of the offense.

With Smith In Lead, How Good Can TE Spot Be?
   
mogwi411
06/06/08
12:34 am ET
Should have gotten Greg Olsen last year and just let LJ walk this year. They probably still could have gotten Kolb with their second. Olsen grabbed 39 receptions for 391 yrds in his rookie season with Grossman, in contrast LJ had 236, and now they're paying him big bucks to franchise him.
patrick.hurley5@...
06/03/08
10:36 pm ET
JB I agree that Lito is lazy, he needs to be on the field...wonder if we still end up trading him...hope not. Also, if 2010 is uncapped...upgrade Lito's deal! I say Smith, Celek, Wilson are in, Schoebel is out because he doesn't do anything that the other's don't...Smith is a big, stretch-the-field TE with speed, Celek is a Chad Lewis-like possession TE and Wilson is athletic and is a major Special Teams contributor. Schoebel doesn't add anything that those guys don't. JB, can't help but disagree when you say that you don't know that Jason Taylor ('06 Defensive Player of the Year) is any better than Greg Ellis...REALLY? C'mon man. By the way, I'm in Dallas and how the HELL do you deal with this heat year round?
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
7:31 pm ET
This... is why Lito is hurt all the time. Cause he's lazy. Good. But... lazy. === I can't think of any reason Young isn't there. === Nick Cole is out there and he's pregnant. I hope. Or thats 1 Fat Man.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
7:15 pm ET
b4. Yep. You called it. === And it really is the ONLY explanation. === That should keep T.O. quiet though. === Right after STD Jones and the rest of the owners met cowboys went on spending spree. I still hope... but now EVERYTHING points to Capless '10. And the end of the EAGLES as we know it. Lurie just can't compete with the Krafts of the World. === What does Lurie do for his money anyways? NE1? === Oddly enough... Dallas was 11 million under. I believe. So they have enough for Taylor. But they just don't need him. I'm not sure he's better than Ellis. No question he's no Ware. But they lack depth. Spencer is a bust so far. So who knows?
b4realplz@...
06/03/08
5:01 pm ET
JB, No salary cap did I call it or what? Yeah, its not official YET, but it is the only explanation for the spending spree. Short term though today was good news. Chad Johnson took Marvins bluff and has pulled himself off the market that he wasn't really on, and Dallas just pulled themselves out of the Jason Taylor sweepstakes. I'm no salary cap expert, so maybe they could still afford JT but I doubt it now. They already have plenty of distractions and defensive locker room issues. So in that regard it was probably wise to promise TO his 13 milli so they don't have to worry about him becoming his own distraction when they start to fall on their faces. 2010 we are $**t out of luck so lets make it happen now. Also, I agree with your position about the potential injuries to #5 and 36. If any team takes a hit to their starting QB they have a minimal shot at winning it all. And we actually have what appears to be good depth behind Westbrook. Probably the best RB depth since Duce & Westbrook. But what happens to the team if it is instead Trent Cole, Parker, or Clemons? Or what if Abimiri doesn't make that step forward? The Eagles 'interest' in Taylor was probably just to help drive the price up for Dallas, but I'm still holding hope it happens. I think he'd be productive until the capless year and then you've got some money to play with right there at the perfect time. I know that the fact we got Clemons makes this unlikely, but I'm sure if a team does pick him up they'll be happy they did. 11 sacks and an INT on a 1-15 team. There is no way that his play doesn't take this group to the next level. I'd rather this over the potential available wide outs.
FrancisXMcCann
06/03/08
4:15 pm ET
G Lew for the record stinks. Nobody is giving up anything for G Lew. The guy has decent hands and isn't a bad change of pace receiver but honestly the guy would struggle to make anyone elses squad I can promise you that.If the ball hits his hands he generally catches it, but he is so easily neutralized by defenses that most of the time you forget he is even there. He had only 13 catches last year. 3 were touchdown in the New Engalnd game but good luck pulling that surprise on people again. G Lew is a sub-par receiver on a squad that loves its sub-par bargains. Cut him.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
4:14 pm ET
Time for Lito to start his S***.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
4:09 pm ET
This new T.O. deal means 1 thing. NO CAP in '10. And everyone in the division will be lookin up at the effin cowboys. There is absolutely no reason to sign a 35 year old WR for 8.5 mill and 13 up front unless you just got money to throw around. But as far as the Cap. Thats reeediculous. JJones must have thought he was FA.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
4:03 pm ET
O God... We got another "LJ fumble" guy.
Sandman29t@...
06/03/08
3:14 pm ET
This is a Big year for L.J Smith. He is someone who has so much promise. every year they talk about the matchup problem he will cause blah blah blah, but in my opinion he has all the tools but never demands the attention from defense, not to mention the way he carries that ball scares the hell out of me i always think a fumble is comming, he needs to put up big numbers this year or he's gone, hit future here is on him i would love for him to stay but he need to be more productive.
b4realplz@...
06/03/08
3:00 pm ET
Great post Kirk. I've been saying pretty much the same thing. Really like putting Klecko up on the LOS. The funny thing to me is that I already do something similar to this in Madden out of the I formation twin TE set. I sub in Justice as the inside TE and it makes running to that side a problem for defenses. On the real football field Klecko would be a better choice for this over Justice, and Davis better than Tapeh. Unfortunately, I'm not sure there is going to be room for BOTH Klecko and Davis, we'll see. The next problem you already mentioned is the lack of running down in the red zone in the first place. You really think Houston or anybody else would give up a pick for G.Lew?
brizer9@...
06/03/08
12:30 pm ET
BTW. #54 means off the team..he didn't make the 53 man roster,..oh boy!..#1 refers to ocho...and you spell mom..M-O-M.
JAYRINGO@...
06/03/08
12:27 pm ET
L.J Smith is going to lose his job this year to Kris Wilson and Celek will be Wilson's backup. The Eagles should have let Smith walk, he is always dropping passes or fumbling the ball. Wilson was a great pickup, and will be much more reliable. Jason- Los Angeles
brizer9@...
06/03/08
12:27 pm ET
I'm sorry,..too,..bathsheba that you didn't catch my joke about G lewis...bottom line ...he stinks...has virtually no shot at making this team...as a ST player he either fumbles are misses tackles and at best gets you a 7th rounder...he's a 20/80% player..20% of the time you love him,..80% of the time you hate him......Cheez,..and folks..don't think for a minute that Lito has any real chance of playing WR in the reg season..this is just the little game that the Igs and Lito/agent are playing to appease the situation..you can't just look at things at face value,..perk up!
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
12:22 pm ET
And no I didn't make the most Famous of Willie's BBQ's... when Matt McConaughey took off all his clothes and banged bongos till the cops took him away. Not sure what he was on but I wish I did!
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
12:17 pm ET
Kirk... Yeah it's fairly easy for DC to see that we run the same 2 run plays out of splitback. If it's inside the 5? Shovel. Outside? Quick pitch wide. Think they run an OT dive also but for joke sake lets say 2. === Kinda sad really our playcallin is. Marty does a better job than REID though. REID just can't run it. 2nd & 12? REID ran it eveytime. I mean EVERYTIME! Usually it got 5 but still. Thats the only time he'd do it. Marty mixes things up more and is not Terrified to run it a little more. And he's less predictable. But yeah we have some problems there. === I sent 20 emails to this guy that has your name. He finally sent me reply sayin he doesn't like Football and lives in Hawaii. And would I please stop bothering him. Did you ever get my email? And if you did? Thats the wrong address to get me back. I'll get you another. === How was Austin? Everything go well? Any Orgies with UT gals? My pal said he's seen Bobby Tayor cruisin his Aston Martin downtown for the last week or so. Run into SRV(statue), Darrell Royal or (Please Jesus!) The Great Willie Nelson? === Since I've lived in Austin... Willie Nelson has been found by Officers of the Law... passed out in his truck... on the side of the highway... car still running... with a 1/4 lb. of The Weed... like 8 times. === And with Willie's 4 million $ tax bill... I'd say he spends a little more than the rest of us. He even had to stoop so low he had to do Taco Bell commercials for a while to build his cash back up. O God that was SAD!!! Poor Willie!!! === He has a HUGE Barbecue every year in Austin. FREE! I quit goin. Didn't want to contribute to his delinquent tax bill. Thats a show there. Your rubbin elbows with Ladybird Johnson, Neil Young, James Street, Sandra Bullock, Tony Brackens, Roger Clemons, Ziggy Marley. I've seen Casey Hampton, Hank Williams Jr., Ricky Williams, Artimus Pyle, Billy Gibbons and I even saw Pete Townsend there 1 time. Thats 1 Helluva scene there. Then at the end of the day... Willie goes on stage to perform and everybody falls asleep. Of course.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
11:47 am ET
FranCann... Well those that know Wilson better than we do... say he's best known for being the lead back in LJ's 1,400 yard season. Not Gonzalez b/u. === And I'm not sure bout Lito at WR. But I am sure bout Lito with the ball in his hands. He's 1 dangerous dude. In fact... Lito is twice as dangerous as any WR's the cowboys have outside of T.O.. But so is Newman, Pacman and probably Mike Jenkins. So what does that say bout them? I'd guess same as us. Nothing.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
11:39 am ET
We could trade Lewis for a roster spot... thats bout it.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
11:37 am ET
I click on this pitiful computer this morn... and it's got this as it's homepage. This is 1 AWESOME picture. How lucky can you get? === http://www.foxnews.com/
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
11:34 am ET
pianodude... This thought is actually from my pal over here... but it's so true I thought I'd post it. Can't take credit for it though. === We are gonna go out on a limb and predict you've never seen Demps play have you?
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
11:31 am ET
Bri... I was gonna throw DT in there... but not 100% sure bout Reagor. He sure was good for Colts though. And should be fully healed by now. And that 5th spot could be iffy. We are good there... but don't have that extra guy we have at all other spots.
bshabs05@...
06/03/08
11:31 am ET
sorry but i dont think GLew is that good, if we were to trade him i dont expect any thing more than a 5 round pick so if a trade does occur it would be smarter to trade for a vet.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
11:29 am ET
pianodude... I'll never lay off the pipe. === Well... first off. You forgot about our starting DE Abiamiri. And if he doesn't start... Parker who had 8 sacks last year will. So Smith and Howard are great 5 and 6. Hence the depth statement I made. And if you'd think bout that... NO OC would want to run Vs. that group. Cole, Parker, Abiamiri, Clemons, Smith and Howard? Yes. Depth it is. === And for some reason you don't add in Demps who's every bit the returner #10 is... if not better. And will probably be our KR. NO MAN can argue that we have better KR's than last year... and thats without them steppin on the field. I guy like Bloom did well in college but is in no way has half the talent Demps and #10 have at KR/PR. No way. === I didn't even think bout Howard really. === And JR Reed and Buck have NO SHOT at returning anything. They may return to the TEAM... but thats it. === So... perhaps it is YOU that SHOULD HIT the pipe. It could help your memory and thought process. Obviusly it couldn't hurt. You gotta think bout the other half of the TEAM you didn't when talkin depth.
FrancisXMcCann
06/03/08
11:28 am ET
I have to admit that in this one instance... one instance... I will drink the red sugary substance given out by a big jug man who crashes through walls and is pushed by the company (thats I need to find a new cliche for anyone who hasn't had it cut out of their conversations yet...)I believe one position that we are sitting pretty is tight end. If LJ stays healthy, Celek lives up the the hype, and this Wilson guy makes a better name for himself than " the guy who backed up Tony Gonzales", then I think we may actually have some potent tight ends. That aside we still stink at wide receiver and I dunno if anyone has heard the news but Lito Shepphard wants to take some reps at wide receiver and Marty Morningwhig is apparently game. What does it say for the wide receivers when the guy covering them is convinced he could do way, way better.
JeromeBrown99
06/03/08
11:10 am ET
I REALLY AM A FUUNY GUY!!!



 

 
 
 
 
 
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