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Fan-Demonium: Draft Thoughts & More
 
March 29, 2008 | Last Updated: 3/29/08 3:00 PM ET | Comments (25)
By: TOMMY LAWLOR


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Everyone talks about what the Eagles are going to do with their first pick. Forget the first pick, I've mapped out the ideal seven-round draft scenario for the Eagles at my website, ScoutsNotebook.com. We also have an interview with Vanderbilt left tackle Chris Williams, who I think could be the Eagles' first draft pick.

I get a lot of questions about wide receiver prospects. There are three guys who I really like that would fit into the Eagles offense. The best player is Devin Thomas of Michigan State. He's only a junior and only had one really productive season, but this kid has a lot of talent. Thomas is 6-2, 216 pounds and still runs a 4.4 in the 40-yard dash. I re-watched tape of him recently, this time focusing on him in the Eagles offense. Thomas could easily fit our style of play. Michigan State threw him a lot of short passes, then relied on him to make something happen once he caught the ball. He has excellent run-after-the-catch (RAC) ability. He's fast and can be elusive. He won't dance around and juke a lot. Thomas seems to understand the importance of getting upfield. He is productive on short routes, but has the speed and ability to also be a good downfield receiver. He has good hands and locates the ball well. He also does a good job of adjusting to the ball with his good body control. If the Eagles are interested in Thomas, they'll have to take him with the 19th pick. 

Second on the list is Eddie Royal. During the early to middle part of the season I was down on Royal. He wasn't playing well when I watched him. I saw a player with talent, but not a guy that impressed me. By the end of the regular season, Royal was one of my favorite receivers in the draft class.  Upon further review, his struggles earlier in the season had a lot to do with mediocre quarterback play. Once Sean Glennon began to play well, Royal did as well.  I'm not focusing on numbers and production so much as how he played. Down the stretch Royal looked great. He ran very good routes and caught the ball really well. He looked like a polished, veteran receiver ...what I had hoped to see all year. I knew coming into the season that he was fast and athletic, but I wasn't sure about his skills as a receiver. However, he really impressed me. Royal was solid in the Orange Bowl, then went to the Senior Bowl and looked great down there. He carried the momentum over to the Combine. He's not the biggest guy at 5-10, 184 pounds, but Eddie is strong, fast and very talented. He did 24 reps in the bench press and ran a 4.39 40 at the Combine. 

Tommy Lawlor, goeagles99 on the Discussion Boards, is an amateur football scout and devoted Eagles fan. He's followed the team for almost 20 years. Tommy has been trained by an NFL scout in the art of scouting and player evaluation and runs www.scoutsnotebook.com.
Third is Jordy Nelson of Kansas State. He impressed me starting early in the year. I remember seeing him against Auburn in the season opener and making a note to check up on him. He had impressed me, but it was only one game. I saw him a few weeks later against Texas. He was lights out. Suddenly we have two great games against two big-time opponents. That tells you the kid is for real. Nelson had an amazing senior season. He made play after play. He went to the Senior Bowl and I feared he might get exposed there. Didn't happen. Once again, he played at a very high level. Nelson has good size at 6-3, 217 pounds. He isn't a burner, but is a very quick and elusive runner. He has the best RAC ability of any big receiver in the draft. Nelson was incredibly productive this year, finishing second in the nation with 122 catches. One of the things I like best about him is that he knows how to get open. Nelson sells his fakes well and can shake defenders, even in a short area. This could be real helpful in the red zone. He had 11 touchdown receptions this year.

Thomas will be a first-round pick, Royal will be a second-round pick and Nelson could sneak into the second, but is more likely a third-round pick. Each player has some added value in the form of return ability. Thomas averaged 29 yards per kickoff return this year. Royal had the most return yards in the history of the ACC. He ran back three punts for touchdowns in his career. Nelson has return ability, but the least amount of experience having only returned six punts in college. I should mention that he ran two back for touchdowns and he averaged more than 44 yards per return. He's not as dynamic as those numbers sound, but could be the primary punt returner for an NFL team.

I don't know how much the Eagles actually like these players. This is strictly my opinion. One other consideration comes into play. You have to think about how each guy would fit the roster. Thomas could play either receiver spot for us.  He can be a workhorse underneath receiver or a deep threat. Royal would play the X-receiver (Kevin Curtis). He could play in the slot early on before challenging for a starting job. Nelson would be a Z-receiver (Reggie Brown) for us if he played outside. He could also be a slot receiver.

There are other quality receiver prospects in the draft, but those three stand out to me as guys who would fit the Eagles current situation. A rookie receiver isn't likely to make much of an impact in any situation, but your chances improve if there is a role he can fit as he adjusts to the NFL.

Pro Days are still going full swing. Eagles assistant coaches and scouts are traveling all over the country to watch kids work out. You'd think that teams would know just about everything about just about everyone at this point  Not so. The workouts give coaches/scouts a chance to see a kid up close. Todd Herremans put himself into the middle of the draft with his workout back in 2005. Small-school guys can make or break their draft position with a good workout in front of the right guys. Every year it seems like Juan Castillo finds a small-school offensive lineman with NFL ability. Let's hope that continues this year. We've also had good luck with small school linebackers the last couple of years (Akeem Jordan, Tank Daniels). I like our current set of starters, but I would love to see some more athletic guys brought in to develop for the future.

Building a roster is a never-ending process.

Fan-Demonium: Draft Thoughts & More
   
JeromeBrown99
03/30/08
6:08 pm ET
Try this === www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=208336
JeromeBrown99
03/30/08
5:51 pm ET
6th!!! 6th rounder for Hood!
JeromeBrown99
03/30/08
12:51 pm ET
Acolvo!!! Saw a stat bout 2006 playoffs. Saints ran for 216 yards Vs. Eagles. Bears held them to 56. That should say enough bout our poor Run D. If we woulda held them to 56.... we woulda won 39-13 also.
JeromeBrown99
03/30/08
12:48 pm ET
Also watched 2006 AFC championship. Then watched it again right after to chart our guy Samuel. === No. 1 that guy is terrified to tackle. So I'll get that out of the way right quick. === In the 1st Q? He had 3 incredible PD's. Colts outside guys do 4 things. They streak. They post. They act like they streak and come back at bout 15 yard outs. And they run outs/slants. Both times #22 was left alone with Harrison on deep posts.... Manning of course made the read. And Samuel was all over him. 1 time made the KD. Another was gonnna get pick but Harrison pushed him in the back. Samuel still got his hand on it. No flag which pissed Samuel off. And he made a great jump on a 10 yard out that he KD. Harrison got him on 3 completed passes. And a 2 point conversion in which Samuel had great position and Manning made a great throw. They didn't even attempt to throw to his side often. He had a pick for a TD. But this is what threw me.... He never lined up closer than 8 yards. Except 3 times inside the 5. And 1 3rd & 5. Thats it. He was always 8 to 12 yards off.
JeromeBrown99
03/30/08
12:36 pm ET
Well.... I said my cat worked out the Formula? That was a lie. He told me how to do it. So I did it myself. === I'm not exactly for sure how it works. The Formula has to do with starts. Amount of contract per year. And a bunch of little things that are for people that sign under a Mill. But if a guy starts and is injured. It still counts as if he is startin till he comes back and doesn't. I'm pretty sure thats why Scott and Reagor didn't qualify. Never started. Plus a player has to sign his deal to a minimum dollar amount that qualifies. I think it's around $650,000. Even then it takes some other things to qualify. Not for sure cause I was thinkin EAGLES and we didn't have any close to that. === 32 are possible I think. Looks like 27 will be given. And Yes you are right. Eagles will get 3 COMP picks. A 4th. A 5th. And a 6th. === 4th for Stallworth. 5th for Garcia. 4th for Rod Hood. Mike Lewis and Curtis wipe clean. === Oddly enough teams with more COMP picks do better than others. Statistically proven. Win or Loss wise. === Also it's Odd the players chosen with COMP picks. Quite a few turned out well including Tom Brady.
brizer9@...
03/30/08
1:02 am ET
JB,..don't know where you got the info on comp pics!,..so, you know more than most "connected" people,..so,.correct me if i'm wrong and confirm if I'm right,..the igs are getting a 4th,5th and 6th for FA compensation. A 3rd would have been really nice...I know what Lawlor said,..I guess I lost track of your latest "mock' for WRs!!!. Interestingly,..I feel exactly the way you two moes feel about the "intriguing top 3" and where we might be able to get them.Hope nobody else 'cept Eagles read these posts! BTW,..looks like alot of O-linemen creeping up the mocks,..wish more QBs and LBs would follow suit.
JeromeBrown99
03/30/08
12:25 am ET
Bri... To get a COMP pick you have to have lost more players than you signed. We do not qualify next year. No doubt bout that 1. Reagor and Scott didn't qualify. Curtis evens out Mike Lewis. Due to contract amounts and the same amount of starts. To get 3rd rounder you have to have a lost FA sign for more than 6 million. Only 3 teams did. (Can't remember which 1's they were.) We did not. So no 3rd rounder. We did have a 5mill and change guy Stallworth. So we get a 4th for him. Then Garcia signed for a tad over 4mill. Qualified and that is worth a 5th. Then we had Hood sign and qualify. I think 3.5mill. Gives us a 6th. Announced on Tuesday maybe Wednesday. Got inside info... My cat worked out the formula. He says it's bout 97%. Thats pretty high. So we got 3 6th's. 2 5th's and 2 4th's. === Stallworth for a 4th is a steal. 11 picks!!! Don't need 11 players. We'll see.
JeromeBrown99
03/30/08
12:01 am ET
goeagles99... I emailed a dude at NFL.com. Here's what he said. === The Cleveland Browns traded their 6th round pick to EAGLES for C Hank Fraley. It was a conditional pick. Fraley started all 16 games for Cleveland so it remained a 6th rounder instead of moving to a 7th. === The EAGLES traded their 7th rounder/Darwin Walker to Buffalo for Spikes and co. But the EAGLES recieved Seatlle's 7th rounder for FB Josh Parry. Everything else remains the same.
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
9:14 pm ET
Soupy.... Tellin ya. If you wanna piss off Gay Blue? When you read his name? Just pass it by. He says things that don't make sense to get under your skin. I promise you ZERO people will think less of you if you don't answer his ridiculous S***!!!
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
9:11 pm ET
Soupy... If your kids need drivin around. Maybe you could think bout sellin your car? That would free up some time. === And I'm glad you have computers. Cause I was lyin bout havin some extras. Only have 1 and its Crap. Didn't think you were gonna post again. So I tossed it out there!
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
9:07 pm ET
I stand by my Nelson, Royal, Bennett, Kelly, Thomas and Sweed comment. Outside of Doucet Bombin his Pro Day a bit. But we not worry bout him cause he's in that area at which we aren't. Early 2nd. So he's out. Now you know I've liked Sweed, Royal and Nelson since they were children. But I also said on a post recently that Thomas has passed Sweed on my Official Philadelphia Eagles Draft Board. So... goin in to April 26th? DThomas would be my WR choice at 19. 2nd round? Eddie Royal. And 3rd round Jordy Nelson. === Dude didn't say those were his TOP 3. Just thats who intrigues him. Same 3 with me. With Sweed a close 4th.
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
8:59 pm ET
OF COURSE BALMER IS FROM NC. AND OF COURSE HE WILL BE GONE IN THE 2ND!!! Just keepin ya on your toes. I meant Kendall Langford from Fordham. Those names that start w/K always throw me off.
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
8:56 pm ET
Soupy... if your children are gonna get in the way? You might wanna think bout a divorce and lettin your better half take'em. Are you or are you not a FAN!
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
8:54 pm ET
Well like Juan says... Numero Uno es Numero Uno!
brizer9@...
03/29/08
6:44 pm ET
Yea,..ah soupy that was a pretty pathetic post..it's about time to grow up and be a man,..get up a little early or post a little late,..there's really no excuse...perkup...and a JB,,#1 don't count here just spuds col...ah,..perk up,,,and i know yur creamed but,..Lawlors top WRs weren't exactly what u said a few days ago,.To wit,.. JeromeBrown99 03/26/08 7:32 pm I still say JNelson, ERoyal, Doucet, Bennett are all as good as Kelly, Sweed and Thomas. All or any would help. All or any isn't needed though. ..ah,..perk up...also Balmer i believe will be gone in rd 2 or b4,..i believe he's from NC,.yea,..and ah,,agin,.perk up!!
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
6:41 pm ET
b4... I'm with ya on playcallin. Often it was strange. I'm with you bout runnin in the Zone. Got to try. Pass Windows so small. And some Power down there would open it up.=== Also the Big plays from WR? Good point. No doubt it will help. === The biggest asset for our Big plays will come w/#5 havin 2 legs. Baskett and Lewis are alot more explosive when #5 can move and buy time.
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
6:34 pm ET
Time... Yep. I forgot about that 1 while I soaked at Pedernales Falls.
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
6:27 pm ET
Your back!!! That's it!!! Tell your Boss to shove it!!! You tell him if he doesn't want you spendin 2-3 hours a day talkin EAGLE Football... You'd rather not work for him!!!
szupa@tbspa.com
03/29/08
4:50 pm ET
geeez! I guess I should defend myself 99 percent of my posts were during work hours when I should be working. Of course I have computer at home I have plus 3 laptops one of them collecting dust so I got a kick out of your post. what I don't have is time on the weekends or when I get home at night. the only reason I'm on now is because my kid won't leave the ballpits at chuckie cheese. Please please dear god tell me because this a different article that this is a different site that blue balls is unaware of? that would be too good to be true!
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
4:10 pm ET
Soupy... Sorry to hear your Mother won't let you on the Internet any more. === Geez! You ain't got a home computer? You can get 1 for $80 bucks that'll get you on the Net! I got a coupla extras. I'll mail you 1 if you gimme your E-mail! Geez! It's 2008 Brother! My mom is like 80 years old. Not only does she not have computer but she doesn't have Call Waitin. Your like my 80 year old mother!
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
4:03 pm ET
So with my mock here.... LT would be Thomas with Justice or Hills bachin up. === LG would be MJG or Herramans. === C Jackson and Cole. === RG Andrews and Rachal or Young. === RT Runyon and Barton... ===+++=== '09? LT Hills or Justice. === LG MJG or Herramans. === C Jackson and Cole. RG Rachal === RT Andrews and Barton. === If Rachal can't play? Andrews stays put and Barton starts RT. Herramans can play all over. Justice can go either OT. If we add 2 OT's and a G in the 1st 4 rounds? We would turn our old line into a young 1 real quick. Hiils could go PS for a year until he's healthy and we could go with Justice Lt 1 more year. If Hills is not Healthy w/ I think he is. === Plenty of options to Dominate up front. But... thats puttin off our DT depth probs till later. Thats 1 way we could go.
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
3:52 pm ET
Here's another Mock I threw together. This 1 w/out tradin down. === 19 is Ken Phillips. A stretch? Kinda. But if #20 goes down he will fill in nice. === 2nd round? OK Bri you win. I take Chilo Rachal/G from USC. That'll slide Andrews out to RT if anything goes wrong or gets too old. === 3rd? Tony Hills Jr. Make Justice work for it at LT. === 4th Kirk Barton/OT Ohio St. Will be nice backup at RT and insurance for Rachal. === The other 4th? I'm gonna use this 4th and a 5th to make sure we get Zbikowski/PR/SS Notre Dame. Considine and Mikell will be pushed. Would help out greatly on ST either way. Cover or Return. And from day 1 he's our PR if... he can beat out my === 5th rounder? Dexter Jackson/WR AppSt. We get a WR that can work underneath and has big play potential. Extremely quick. === The other 5th? Kentwan Balmer/DT from? Can't remember. Or Frank "Cheeseburger" Okam/DT UT. Okam doesn't really fit but is huge (360lbs.) and can help Vs. run. Balmer smaller but quicker. Better fit. And he's small college guy that REID seems to pull out every year. === 6th round? I'm goin RB with either Thomas Brown/Georgia or Tony Temple/Missouri. Both could be Great NFL RB's to me. Similar styles. Quick and shifty. Good speed. Both knee surgeried. So they are available here. Both are like 5' 8''. Round 200 lbs. Good value to me here. Our other 6th? I'm gonna take care of my Manute Bol WR issues. Mario Urrutia or Bob Purify. Urrutia is HUGE. 6'6'' 230. Not sure if he's playmaker or not. But he's huge. Purify had good game Vs. Talib and is 6'4''. Not sure he fits but I will give him chance since he's Husker. 7th round? This is tough 1. I'd like to go with Derek Lokey/DT UT. Good effort guy. High motor. And I like those guys. But I might have to go with Steve Craver/ S from Tulane. Special Teamer and I know his brother. Good news is neither will likely be drafted so the 1 I don't get is gonna be FA and can be signed then!
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
3:29 pm ET
Now... Gues I should point out. Right bout now I'm lit up like an ole Christmas Tree! Have been for bout 30 hours! So this is when I do my best thinkin! === Went to basketball games last night. Memphis and UT DESTROYED. Should be good game Sunday. Hope I make it. Stayed up all night and drove back from Houston to watch UT's Spring game. Only news that would interest you guys is that Tre Newton... Son of The Weed himself. Got BLLLOOOOOWWWNNN UP on a kick return. As the crowd oooo'd and ahhhh'd there I am standin on my seat screamin "YEA BABY! KILL'EM! PUT HIS A** DOWN! YEA BABY!" Not good. But I still have Devilish Grin cause of it. === Saw Shane Dronett... Leonard Davis(How could NE1 have not)... Rod Wright... Tim Crowder... Chris Simms. Sat right behind UT recruit and High School Senior Chris Whaley and his family. He's bigger than me. He said he plays IB not FB!!! Gotta be 6' 3-4''... 240 pounds. Got DE written all over him.
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
3:18 pm ET
Thanks Juan! Nice job! An extra $5 for you! === goeagles99 Those are my three as well. I was at the UofTexas game Vs. KSU. Nelson was unstoppable Vs. decent Whorns secondary. I looked up the numbers and he had 12 snags 116 yards and a TD. 89-yard PR also for TD. Seemed like he did more than that. I think 7 of his catches went for 1st downs. He'd look awful good in the slot. === Royal to me is the hardest to judge. Cause I think I'm a better QB than Glennon. But he still made tough NFL catches look easy at the Senior Bowl. === Thomas has it all. And his biggest asset is YAC. === All three could help out. But I'd hate to spend a 1st rounder on WR. So I like Nelson. Even if we have to trade up a bit to get'em. === Anyways I like readin your pages cause you throw out names where others talk positions.
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
3:05 pm ET
Numero Uno? Mucho Bueno!



 

 
 
 
 
 
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