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March 28, 2008 | Last Updated: 3/28/08 11:44 AM ET | Comments (56)
Do The Players Even Matter For The Fans?

If you believe published reports, the Dallas Cowboys could soon be acquiring talented, but very troubled, cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones in a trade with Tennessee. Aside from the football ramifications, which I will touch on later, it got me to thinking: Does it matter to the fans of the Cowboys, or to fans in general, which players play for their teams?

I'm serious about this.

Do you root for a uniform, a team, rather than the players who are part of that team? Are you willing to overlook a player like Jones, who has been suspended for a full season, hasn't even been reinstated by the league to date, and who has had some of the more egregious off-the-field problems associated with NFL players in recent years?

Does it matter to fans how players represent a team? Or does it only matter how many games are won by your favorite football team?

Look, I'm not going to pretend that football players are any different than any other member of society. We all make mistakes. We all have to wake up every day and remind ourselves to make good decisions. The Eagles, your favorite team, want to have players who are model citizens, who never make mistakes, but that just isn't the case. It isn't possible. Players are people, too.

But at some point, the line is drawn between a mistake and a real problem. And certainly, Jones has crossed that line. I hope, for the young man's sake, that he has learned from his past and that he applies the extraordinary ability he has for the good, for the right, and that he appreciates the opportunity of playing in the National Football League.

At the same time, I put myself in the position of being of Cowboys fan. It is a sickly feeling to begin with, but I wonder how I would react if my favorite team were about to acquire a player like Jones. Could I turn to my son or daughter and say, "Let's go out and buy his new jersey?" How could I be proud of having my child wearing a jersey like that?

I guess I have this sense of pride about the Eagles, about what the team represents on and off the field. Character matters. Yes, there are players here who have made mistakes, and they are admonished for that, and they are put on notice, I'm sure, by the organization and by their teammates and by the coaches. By and large, for the many years I've been here, the Eagles players have conducted themselves with respect and with professionalism on and off the field. That means something to me. I'm proud to be here, to represent the Eagles, to know that Andy Reid puts together a locker room that conducts itself the right way with the media, with the fans, with each other and on and off the field.

In a recent Fan Poll on PhiladelphiaEagles.com, this question was asked: Would you want the Eagles to make a play for CB Pacman Jones? We had 13,629 votes. The majority of you, 56.3 percent, said "No way." But 24.3 percent selected the answer, "Yes, absolutely."

And I ask: Why?

Does character and respect not matter to you? Do you only root for the Eagles, and not care about the players who step on the field and are a reflection of the City of Philadelphia, the Eagles organization, heck, you the fans?

From a pure football standpoint, I think every team would want a player like Jones. He is a fine cornerback with big-play instincts. He has all the intangibles. He is a dangerous return man -- as the Eagles found out in the 2006 season when Jones returned a punt for a touchdown in a Titans win at Lincoln Financial Field. Adding Jones would give Dallas three very good cornerbacks and would, in theory, upgrade the Cowboys defense significantly.

But is that all that matters? I mean, if Dallas really wants another cornerback, there are prospects in the draft and the Cowboys have the ability to move up and make a trade and acquire any player they want, right?

I'm just asking. Certainly, everyone is entitled to an opinion. And football fans come from every demographic and generally want the same thing: To win the Super Bowl.

My good friend is a Dallas fan -- I know, I picked a buddy and I need to re-evaluate -- and we talked about this dilemma. He told me a story about his son, 13 years old, and about how they were talking about the possible acquisition of Jones and what it would mean. And the question his son asked, which my friend could not answer, was this: "Daddy, should a person go to jail longer for abusing dogs or doing what Pacman Jones did?"

Kids ask the funniest things, don't they? Anyway, the story here is not about the punitive process. It is about a fan's reaction to the players on his favorite team. My friend doesn't want Jones to be a Cowboy because "no matter how much he says he is going to change, he hasn't changed yet." At the same time, I know that if Jones becomes a Cowboy and if he plays the way he is capable of playing and if he has success in 2008, then my buddy is going to be cheering on Dallas just as loudly as he has all of his sad, sorry football-fan life.

I had a real problem with Terrell Owens in 2005 for the stance he took in the post-Super Bowl months. I didn't like the anti-team approach Owens had in those months and I didn't like the disruption of training camp and I certainly didn't care for Owens putting himself above the team. I expressed my opinion and, well, 2005 was a disaster for the Eagles and Owens was suspended from the team and later released and he ended up in Dallas and has certainly been a different, more mature person. I give Owens credit for that, and I believe that deep in his heart Owens regrets his tactics after a season to remember in 2004.

The team comes first. Anybody who has ever played a sport and enjoyed a modicum of success understands that the first principle of success is everyone buying into that premise. Every team is going to have contract squabbles, every team is going to have a clash of egos, every team is going to have challenges that go on every single day. But when the season arrives, and when the 53-man roster is established, the team is first.

One of the great successes Reid has enjoyed, in general, in his time here, is a great locker room. One in which the players genuinely like each other, respect each other and appreciate the privilege of playing for the great Eagles fans in a great football city. The players have been vigorous in their support for the organization's many charitable endeavors and for their encounters with the fans.

The Eagles have been about a team that loves the fans as much as the fans love the team.

That means something to you, doesn't it? I can't speak for how you feel, but I have a real curiosity in what the fans think. Does it matter a whit about the character of the players on this team, or it is a win-at-any-cost approach that you take? In light of the apparent interest the Cowboys have in Jones, I have to think about what it means to those fans, and what it means to Eagles fans.

In the end, do you care about the players who wear the helmets and who are portrayed as role models for your children, or do you only care about winning every Sunday?

Do The Players Even Matter For The Fans?
   
JeromeBrown99
03/30/08
1:26 pm ET
Pacman went into that "Scrip Club" as he calls it and didn't throw "some money up to make it rain".... He threw $80,000 dollars!!! $80,000!!! The Girls were fightin and so were the bouncers. If your not smart enough to know that would cause a problem... You stupid. === But the worst thing that happened was Pacman wouldn't leave when they asked him. So they start to "escort" him out and he goes nuts. He just threw all that money up and they were shuttin it down. To stop the fightin. He wanted to reap the awards. That was what the whole thing was about. He threw up all that money and they shut the place down. 1 girl stabbed another. It was a mess. === The bouncer that is paralyzed told Pacman he was "gonna break his knees" and "end his career"... Classless act. But Pacman replied...."You ain't walkin outta here tonight"... Thats the Bad part. They've got that on tape. Video and audio. The VERY WORST IS... they got Pacman on tape tellin some Thug that he would give'm $50,000 bucks to... and I quote "Lite the place up"...It was during the NBA All-star Weekend. There was no shortage of Thugs in town. Actual shooter was never found. People saw him but he was wearin a wig with a hat and glasses. They got him on tape also. But he's behind a tree and can't prove it was the guy beside Pacman in the "Scrip Club" === Las Vegas cops couldn't prove what they know happened. The Mob. I mean the DA. Told Pacman if he ever came back... "he would be the 1 not walkin outta there" (allegedly) They know what happened. Just can't prove it. === Theres thousands of holes in LV desert that proves Pacman won't do it there ever again. But the rest of the country isn't safe. === Ray Lewis was with a guy that stabbed someone to death. Pacman paid a guy to do it. BIG difference. === Any1 who says Pacman wasn't directly involved is a Liar. Period. And I'm not sure a Thug like that should be let back in NFL. But NO WAY he deserves to be in EAGLES Gear. cowboys? Sure. Why not?
golda.lewis@...
03/30/08
12:22 am ET
hey ImaWingnut,YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T READ THE POST,otherwise you would have picked up on the fact that Spadaro,mentioned Andy Reid two sentences in a 17(if you read it all,you'd know)paragraph post.You are the one spewing venom,you are the one being a hypocrite to his own team,you are the one that took two sentences and turned them into an entire downcast on Reid.No,I didn't miss your point at all,you like blaming people for their family's failures.If anyone should step down,it's people like you that make idiotic posts about 2 sentences in an entirely legit article.How about the person,INDIVIDUALY,being responsible for himself,exactly like Adam Jones.Also,you're one to talk about someone not paying attention to anything other than headlines,otherwise you'd know that Jones started a fight in a Las Vegas strip club,that ended in a gunfight with only one side shooting,and a bouncer paralyzed.I haven't seen Reid or anyone in his family paralyze someone,have you?How about Jones physically attacking a stripper for picking up money that she thought was a tip,when he was throwing so much in the air,it was "falling like rain".I'll take 2 drug addict sons,over a man that beats women and parlyzes people,any day of the week.You learn to thoroughly (not throughly)read an article,and find it's true meaning,which has to do with children and teams as a whole.If you can't I'll be glad to purchase you Hooked on Phonics at my expense.Once again,I'm in know way trying to disrespect your family,and am glad that you have a wonderful wife and great children,but not everyone lives in your Family Wonderland of absolute splendor and flawless attributes.Hooked on Phonics worked for me!Get off the greatest coach in Eagles history,as voted by the fans for the 75th Anniversary team.......
JeromeBrown99
03/29/08
6:24 pm ET
IMA.... As I have said b4 on here.... REID immediate Family is not part of the EAGLES Family. And to me... there's a Good chance that REID's son's ended up the way they did because he put in 20 hours days FOR YOU AND ME! === No 1 that knows REID woudl ever say that he is not a Great Person. You can say he's not a Great Coach if you want to. But You can't say he's not a Great Man. === I'd say it's you that needs to Face the Facts. REID is a class act.
IMAWingnut
03/29/08
5:35 pm ET
Alcalvo, Obviously you missed the point of my post. It wasn't I, but Spadaro who mentioned Andy Reid. If it was purely the players he was discussing I would agree with you, but he was not. You really should take the time to throughly read an article instead of illiciting a diatribe and spewing venom on someone who has. Instead, it appears you read the headline and ASSumed the rest. Based on this obvious assumption, one can also assume that you did not follow the Reid case, but merely read the headlines. So you surely do not speak from a position of knowledge or authority concerning the case as it was presented in full public view. In any event as an educator I would be remiss if I did not ask that you learn how to read and understand what you have read, as now you appear a fool. Oh, and one other thing. Note that I did not attempt to cast a pale over your family, but stuck to you and the words your wrote. As a wise man once said, "Better to be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt". P.S. My children are collge educated, gainfully employed, not on drugs, and very happy as am I and my wife.
golda.lewis@...
03/29/08
11:34 am ET
Oh,and ImaWingnut,I want you to know that in no way,am I trying to disrespect you or your family members in any way.I just want you to understand that I'm not claiming that your family has those problems,just that it may,just like ANY FAMILY,including mine.
golda.lewis@...
03/29/08
11:29 am ET
You see ImaWingnut,the problem with your post is that noone that I know(Maybe you do)has an Andy Reid Eagles jersey.Do you know where I can get one?What's his number?Does his family have jerseys as well?What positions do his two sons play?I'd really like to get Andy's wife's jersey for my little girl,can you help?Laugh all you want,but I guarantee someone in your family has a drug problem,or cheats on his wife/husband,or has children that steal Rx meds,without them knowing,buys illegal guns,has road rage,is an alcoholic,or even has an auto mechanic that screws old lady's out of their money,with unneeded repairs to their vehicle.Or maybe you've got a police officer that goes into the projects and assaults poeple,just because he can.What about a lawyer that sues a family,when his defender is the person that broke into the family's house,fell and broke his leg,tripping over the phone cord.The fact of the matter is that FAMILY IS FAMILY......we all have skeletons in our closets,you included.You don't give up on family.The problems with Pac-Man,are his own,not family members,that's the difference.Andy Reid himself,is none of the things I posted.Good QUALITY players are what teams need,even if their family members may be convicts........how would you like it if someone fired you from your job,based on your teenage daughter (if you have one)sleeping around in her high school?It wouldn't be fair to you,and it's not fair to Reid........
IMAWingnut
03/29/08
11:05 am ET
Now I know Dave Spadaro is out of his mind. How can he possibly condemn PacMan and use Andy Reid as an example of, as he puts it "puts together a locker room that conducts itself the right way". Give me a break, Andy Reid can't even get his own house in order. That's right, whether Spadaro wants to face it or not the fact is that the family associated with an NFL player, coach, owner or whatever is going to receive media attention and kids all over will hear about them just like when the players receive media attention. Reid should have stepped down as coach the minute the news broke about his sons, whose actions have not only stained the image of the Eagles, but were far more egregious than anything Pacman has done to date. Shame on you Dave Spadaro.
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:14 am ET
HOPEFULLY WESTBROOK'S KNEES FALL APART THIS YEAR AND HAVE NO OTHER PERSON ON OFFENSE....SO 1 PLAYER DIMESION AND THINGS DON'T CHANGE...IN PHILTHY OF COURSE.....BOW DOWN TO BLUE
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:13 am ET
12 SACK ATTACK....OSI RIDES TO HALL OF FAME ON ROLLER SKATES CAUSE REID LEFT JUSTICE HANGIN!!!
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:12 am ET
3 SYRINGES, AND **** BROWN ASKING TO BE A SCOUT SINCE HE WAS NEVER GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE IT IN SPORTS...THEREFORE SHE CHOSE RABBIT HUNTING AND TEXAS 2 STEPPING YOU BILLYGOAT WHAT...JENX DON'T KNOW YOU...EVEN C. PETER IS LIKE WHO? EMBARRASING TO EVEN ASK THEM..YOU KNOW!!!!!!
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:10 am ET
A BUCKET OF KFC CHICKEN BUCKET,
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:09 am ET
3 CANS OF MAMA MCNABB SOUP,
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:09 am ET
AINT NO TROPHIES AT THE NOVA CRACK COMPLEX EXCEPT:
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:08 am ET
UPDATE THIS OLD WEBSITE...GO TO GIANTS.COM AND GET THE REAL LOW DOWN..AND DVD CHAMPIONSHIP
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:07 am ET
GIANTS RULE SUPREME..WHILE PIGEONS PONDER
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:07 am ET
GIANTS RULE..PIGEONS SUCK.
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:07 am ET
GOOD DAY IN SPORTS: FLYES LOSE, PHILTHEES LOSE, SIXERS LOSE, VILLANOVA LOSES,AND PIGEONS LOSE.....ALL IN 1 NIGHT!!!! PRICELESS!!
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:06 am ET
TIME TO MULCH YOU PHILTH-ADELPHIANS
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:05 am ET
CRAFTMAN: YOU WHITE TRASH REDNECK..GO MULCH IN CHALFONT
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:05 am ET
ACALVO: I'LL MAKE SURE TO PISS ON WATERS GRAVE YOU SUCKER
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:04 am ET
ALL YOU SUCKERS POSTING HERE ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, WHAT A WASTE OF SPERM YOU LAST PLACE DWELLARS.
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:03 am ET
see you in july with my giants gear to the max..don't be jealous now
jeromebrown999@...
03/29/08
10:02 am ET
szupa: your as skinny as the kid on the web front page..enjoy your stilleto's you heeeeerb!1 and enjoy last place living in bethlehem..
brizer9@...
03/29/08
9:53 am ET
I agree Crafty,..but also feel the Igs, if unable to pull off a trade, which is no easy task, will strategically select WRs in the draft that should help our team as WRs and possibly KR/PRs. I see minimally 2 quality picks, say late first round- 4th round and a stretch little known WR later. As a sidenote, I would also like to see the Igs step up to the plate and extend # 36's contract. Anybody with any mgmt savy, knows that the igs are in great position with Brian and he in turn, is sitting precariously. They should do the right thing and give this guy what he deserves,..he is grossly underpaid. I don't want to see an unhappy # 36!!!
theflooringcraftsman@...
03/29/08
9:25 am ET
Of course players matter Dave..I'm proud to be an Eagles fan..We all know Jerry Jones is a scum bag and always signs troubled players. drug addicts, abusers, people with low moral standards like his self.Same with the Giants I see that Pierce just had charges filed against him.Then you have lil bags of **** that come on this page and try to trash one of the Class acts in the NFL.I like what we have done in Free agency..Now I', lookin for a HUGE trade on draft day..I see a WR that everybody wants..GOOOOOOO EAGLES!!!!!



 

 
 
 
 
 
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